Disney Villains Countdown - Discussion

Post by **Luke** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:45 am

In case you haven't noticed on the front page of the site, the UltimateDisney.com countdown of Disney villains is now going on here:

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/countdown4/

The list of the Top 30 Villains is a result of voting that went on in the forum and by e-mail last August.

Anyway, I thought I'd start a thread to spark discussion - both on the results and on the format of this countdown.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

More people sent in comments about the higher-ranking villains, so in the near future those will start appearing instead of my prose. Two villains will be profiled each weekday until we get down to #1.

MickeyMousePal · Post by **MickeyMousePal** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:33 am

What ever happen to our write-ups???
Why didn't Gargoyles villains make it to the countdown?

BrandonH · Post by **BrandonH** » Tue Oct 12, 2004 11:55 pm

The current format is fine, but I think it can be tweaked. I'd like to see a certain number of honorable mention choices per day before revealing any of the Top 30. Also, it would have been great to have #1 revealed on Halloween.

Just some suggestions. I eagerly await #26 and #25 tonight.

AwallaceUNC · Post by **AwallaceUNC** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:05 am

I really like it! The design and change in colors are great. Good job, Luke.

Sad to see (but not surprised) that Barbosa was the only live-action villain to make the cut.

-Aaron

AwallaceUNC · Post by **AwallaceUNC** » Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:31 pm

Sound clips! Nice addition, Luke! And I got quoted in today's listings!

-Aaron

Lucylover1986 · Post by **Lucylover1986** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:48 pm

I'm surprised that Madame Mim came in at 25! She doesn't really strike me as a great villian. I can't wait to see the rest of the countdown since there's bound to be some more surprises. I hope they put up 24 and 23 before I have to go to bed!

Post by **Luke** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:37 pm

Lucylover1986 wrote:I'm surprised that Madame Mim came in at 25! She doesn't really strike me as a great villian. I can't wait to see the rest of the countdown since there's bound to be some more surprises. I hope they put up 24 and 23 before I have to go to bed!

It's up now! Hope you didn't go to bed yet!

Lucylover1986 · Post by **Lucylover1986** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:42 pm

No, I didn't yet! LOL. Another surprise seeing Pete at 23! I didn't even think of him.

indrajit · Post by **indrajit** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:51 pm

I hope to see Sher Khan (from the Jungle Book) in the top five. Not only is he great in the movie, but is the Disney animated series Talespin, they writers made Khan so great...I almost idolize him! (C'mon wouldn't you like to be as cool as Sher Khan?)

Other villians I hope to see in the top ten are NegaDuck, The Hun Leader, Scar, Don Carnage, The SeaWitch (in Little Mermaid), Cruella DeVille, The Sheriff of Rottingham, Jafar (of course!), and ... how about ... Magica De Spelle?

I personally can't think of any live action Disney villians that belong in the top ten, but if there has to be one it *has* to be Neville Sinclair.

.... Dont Remember him? Think Howard Hughes. Think a Nazi pretending to be an actor. Think of a man flying through the air with a metal helmet and a jetpack.

No its not Bullethead from Talespin. Close. It's "The ....

- indrajit

Just Myself · Post by **Just Myself** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:00 pm

indrajit wrote:I hope to see Sher Khan (from the Jungle Book) in the top five. Not only is he great in the movie, but is the Disney animated series Talespin, they writers made Khan so great...I almost idolize him! (C'mon wouldn't you like to be as cool as Sher Khan?)

Other villians I hope to see in the top ten are NegaDuck, The Hun Leader, Scar, Don Carnage, The SeaWitch (in Little Mermaid), Cruella DeVille, The Sheriff of Rottingham, Jafar (of course!), and ... how about ... Magica De Spelle?

I personally can't think of any live action Disney villians that belong in the top ten, but if there has to be one it *has* to be Neville Sinclair.

.... Dont Remember him? Think Howard Hughes. Think a Nazi pretending to be an actor. Think of a man flying through the air with a metal helmet and a jetpack.

No its not Bullethead from Talespin. Close. It's "The ....

Rocketeer"!!! But did you notice Luke said Barbossa would be the only LA villain?

OC Films · Post by **OC Films** » Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:31 pm

I must admit, I really do enjoy Pete.

However, I have to add that I really dont enjoy Pete so much as a villain - at least not an evil villain. Roles in "Three Musketeers" and "Prince & The Pauper", although fun, dont make for my signature Pete moments.

I prefer our peg-legged friend in the guise as obnoxious neighbor. Whether it was in the Donald shorts of the late 40's or as Goofy's friend/nemesis on 'Goof Troop' or the Goofy movies, I think Pete comes across best as just that - the self-absorbed know it all suburban loudmouth.

...Just my $ .02

DisneyChris · Post by **DisneyChris** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:52 am

Luke, I hope you could edit the Sid pic, cos it's cropped very badly with edges all around it.

And also, the page layout and villain headshot pic designs should be more classier, IMHO. The current one is... a bit too simple.

indrajit · Post by **indrajit** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:49 pm

just myself,

foolish me, didnt read the fine print. Now I wish Sinclair made it instead of Barbossa. I dont find the pirate that villianous. I understand his plight, he stole the coins and he wants to end the curse and is desperate. I actually would like to help him! But Sinclair is just ruthless, and you have no pity for him.

BTW....I recently bought then returned the PotC:CotBP dvd, why? Does anyone notice the layer change halfway through the movie? It goes from a close up of depp, freezes for about half a sec, and cuts to open seas. it's a glaring glitch, and oh so annoying. It's in every dvd of Pirates i checked! I called Disney and they said yes that's a layer change...like there was no problem there! so i returned it. mayebe the 3disc edition will have a better layer change.

Lucylover1986 · Post by **Lucylover1986** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 1:13 pm

Who do you guys think will be #1? My guess is either Ursula, Malificent, or The Evil Queen from Snow White. These 3 will make the top 5 at least.

disneywb · Post by **disneywb** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 1:42 pm

indrajit,
The layer change you're experiencing happens in all sorts of movies, and is probably only such a problem because of the player you use. Haven't you noticed a similar problem on other movies? I can also assure you that the three-disc edition will be no different. Sorry- Maybe you just need to get another player.
Lucylover, I've gotta guess that it's either Maleficent or the Evil Queen. Although Ursula is evil, she doesn't get as much attention as other villains because she is so difficult to pull off- I don't see her wandering around fronteirland like the Evil Queen!

AwallaceUNC · Post by **AwallaceUNC** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 2:00 pm

DisneyChris wrote:And also, the page layout and villain headshot pic designs should be more classier, IMHO. The current one is... a bit too simple.

I disagree. This layout/design is actually much more enjoyable to look at than even the last countdowns!

-Aaron

Just Myself · Post by **Just Myself** » Fri Oct 15, 2004 5:40 pm

indrajit wrote:The SeaWitch (in Little Mermaid)

You may know her as the Sea Witch, but we hear at UD refer to her as Ursala.

Deco King · Post by **Deco King** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:04 am

My two or three favourite villain/esses are The Wicked Queen and The Wich from Snow White, and Maleficent from Sleeping Beauty. However does the board consider that the Queen and the Witch are two villains or one, as the Witch/Hag is the alter ego of the Wicked Queen??

PS: How do I add an image to my profile listing please advise!!

Post by **Luke** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:18 am

Deco King wrote:PS: How do I add an image to my profile listing please advise!!

Once you have reached 50 posts, you can choose an avatar from either the galleries here, a picture on your computer, or an image you find elsewhere on the Internet. The option to select an avatar will be found in your <a href="http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/pro ... Profile</a>.

DisneyChris · Post by **DisneyChris** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 7:47 am

awallaceunc wrote:
DisneyChris wrote:And also, the page layout and villain headshot pic designs should be more classier, IMHO. The current one is... a bit too simple.
I disagree. This layout/design is actually much more enjoyable to look at than even the last countdowns!

-Aaron

Of course it's better than the previous countdowns, but I still feel there's room for improvement (especially the bad cropping).

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