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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:45 pm 
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From http://www.dvdizzy.com/donaldvol4b.html

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The Walt Disney Treasures line has been very good about offering even controversial cartoons in their original, uncut form. The Chronological Donald Volume Four contains a notable but befuddling exception to that rule. Bee on Guard, a 1951 short located on Disc One, ends abruptly and chops off five seconds from the original cut. The truncation is likely a mistake rather than an intentional edit; the five missing seconds contain nothing that could be considered offensive or legally troubling. The omitted animation merely zooms in on the bee's face as he winks. The edit will understandably frustrate many collectors but ultimately isn't of much consequence.


Does anyone know if any replacement disc was ever issued for the first disc from this set? And if so can it still be obtained?

I tried searching online I could only come up with these pieces of evidence.

Wikipedia talks about a replacement disc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Disney_Treasures:_Wave_Eight#The_Chronological_Donald,_Volume_Four

And this link lists info on other replacement discs but only mentions that a replacement disc for this one would be issued: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=7&pageID=2&threadID=71282&archive=0


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:40 pm 
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I never realized there was a replacement disc for this set. I hope someone has more information about how to obtain one, because the error always bothered me.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:27 am 
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JeanGreyForever wrote:
I never realized there was a replacement disc for this set. I hope someone has more information about how to obtain one, because the error always bothered me.


Nor did I that's why I'm trying to find info on that.

I will call the customer service number on those links to see what they say. Not optimistic about anything coming of it though.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:36 pm 
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Class316 wrote:
From http://www.dvdizzy.com/donaldvol4b.html

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The Walt Disney Treasures line has been very good about offering even controversial cartoons in their original, uncut form. The Chronological Donald Volume Four contains a notable but befuddling exception to that rule. Bee on Guard, a 1951 short located on Disc One, ends abruptly and chops off five seconds from the original cut. The truncation is likely a mistake rather than an intentional edit; the five missing seconds contain nothing that could be considered offensive or legally troubling. The omitted animation merely zooms in on the bee's face as he winks. The edit will understandably frustrate many collectors but ultimately isn't of much consequence.


Does anyone know if any replacement disc was ever issued for the first disc from this set? And if so can it still be obtained?

I tried searching online I could only come up with these pieces of evidence.

Wikipedia talks about a replacement disc: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Disney_Treasures:_Wave_Eight#The_Chronological_Donald,_Volume_Four

And this link lists info on other replacement discs but only mentions that a replacement disc for this one would be issued: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=7&pageID=2&threadID=71282&archive=0

Yes, a replacement disc was offered a few months after release and I received it from Disney after submitting a request. I doubt they still have copies available but it wouldn't hurt to try


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:26 pm 
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geniuswalt wrote:
Yes, a replacement disc was offered a few months after release and I received it from Disney after submitting a request. I doubt they still have copies available but it wouldn't hurt to try


Can you post the number on the replacement disc 1?

Another question, do you know if there was a replacement for disc 1 of Mickey Mouse in Black and White, Volume Two (The Castaway has 2 seconds of missing footage)


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:35 pm 
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I'd contact Disney and ask them. It doesn't hurt to ask. I contacted them in 2013 about getting replacement discs for "More Silly Symphonies" and I didn't think I had much of a chance of getting them, especially as that set was only ever released in Region 1 and I live in the UK. However I still managed to get them to send me the replacements by international post, 6 years after their release.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:29 pm 
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UPDATE on this!

I called 800-723-4763 and I pressed 1 for English and 5 for all other inquires.

They asked me for some info on the release

UPC
86936 76826

Spine
057742

Then the numbers on the disc, this is where it becomes tricky

The FRONT of Disc 1 says 367127 CD4-ON-NW1.1 (IN MIRROR WRITING NO LESS - at least on mine)

The BACK of Disc 1 says 367126 CD4-ON-NW1.1

I said "the front says 367127 and the back says 367126"

Seems that info was adequate and I was told they would be able to replace the disc! I couldn't believe it!

A few days later I got the envelope, sent my old disc, then got back a new one! I tried it and you see the full footage on the "Bee On Guard" short! Wow that is awesome! Especially when you consider this is the only non-VHS release of that particular short.

For those that want to check their disc, the back of the corrected disc says 373491 CD4-ON-NW1.2

Since I never knew about this up until now, I wonder if any replacement discs were issued for the first Mickey Mouse in Living Color (the censored audio in Clock Cleaners), the first Silly Symphonies (censored Jewish disguise in Three Little Pigs), and the second Mickey Mouse in B&W (The Castaway missing 2 seconds)


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:37 pm 
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For what it's worth, I asked them about Mickey Mouse in Living Color and Mickey Mouse in B&W vol 2 they said no new versions were issued. Such a shame.

At least I bought for less than $5 shipped on ebay a used copy of Have a Laugh vol 2 which fixes the Clock Cleaners short.

Three Little Pigs I got someone to send me the vob from the UK release.

There's sadly no easy fix for the issues in Mickey Mouse in B&W vol 2.


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