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If you could change anything in a Disney Movie

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If you could go back and change things in Disney films what would they be and why? Only the classic animated films. It could be a character, scene, line anything you want.
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Well, from Princess and the Frog I would have Ray not die. also I would have changed Tiana's character. I never really liked her character, which is sad because Naveen is my favorite Disney Prince. I would have preferred her to be more fun, but she never really let loose in my opinion, she was always tense.

In Enchanted I would have had Giselle go with Edward at the end of the film. I always thought she was crazy for going with Robert. :x

Fox and the Hound I would have changed the ending instead of them going their separate ways they become best buddies again forever. I thought the ending ruined the whole lesson in the film.

Beauty and the Beast I would NOT have shown Gaston's chest. That scene gives me the CREEPS! :lol:

I could name other things like Bambi's mother dying/Mufasa dying, but they kind of needed to be in the film plot wise. That doesn't mean I have to like it though. :)
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Even though I love Snow White and part of me refuses to acknowledge that it's not perfect, I think that a minute or two of the Dwarfs' scenes could have been cut. In Cinderella, I would edit the scene with the mice getting the chicken feed and avoiding Lucifer, and make the scene with the mice getting the beads shorter.

For 101 Dalmatians, I would get rid of the annoying puppy who was perpetually hungry, make Perdita less bland and forgettable, and also edit the scenes between the puppies' escape from Hell Hall and the car chase climax (they drag and a lot of it is unnecessary). While The Rescuers is one of my favourites, there is one thing that could have been improved upon: the abrupt music change when Medusa trips over and the hillbilly mice 'charge'. In The Great Mouse Detective, Olivia should have been voiced less irritatingly.

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For The Rescuers, I'd have cut out the character of Evinrude. I don't know why, but it just annoys me.

Pocahontas, I would have cut all of the scenes with Meeko and Percy. Totally unnecessary, the film could have been very dramatic and dark without the stupid comedic parts with those two.

Pinocchio - more Figaro! (Only coz he's my favourite Disney character ever :D)

Dinosaur would have been completely CGI. I find that the contrast between CGI characters on live action backgrounds to be too jarring in that film, and there's too many moments where the special effects (eg. when a live action object appears to be manipulated/touched by a CGI character) are rubbed in our faces (eg. trying to make it obvious that they want the audience to think 'wow, how'd they get the water to do that?!').

Hunchback of Notre Dame - obvious one. No gargoyles.

I would have had Chicken Little as traditionally animated. The quality of the computer animation is too amateur for my tastes. I know it was their first attempt at an all-CGI film, but I honestly think even Toy Story, an entire decade older, looks better.
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Cinderella.....Lady Tremaine, Anastasia & Drizella would have suffered more of an on screen comeuppance.

Peter Pan....I wish Neverland would have been as exciting and beautiful as the London scenes.
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Animalia wrote:Well, from Princess and the Frog I would have Ray not die.
Forgive the obvious hypocrisy since I'm not religious, but,

IN GOD'S NAME, WHY???!!!???!!!???!!!???

I truly think if you polled the audience, an overwhelming amount of them would either say he was an incredibly annoying character or, if they actually liked him (which is difficult to fathom), that for once Disney made a decision with a character that actually involved some backbone.
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Animalia wrote:Fox and the Hound I would have changed the ending instead of them going their separate ways they become best buddies again forever. I thought the ending ruined the whole lesson in the film.
On the contrary, the ending MAKES the lesson of the film.
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SpringHeelJack wrote:
Animalia wrote:Fox and the Hound I would have changed the ending instead of them going their separate ways they become best buddies again forever. I thought the ending ruined the whole lesson in the film.
On the contrary, the ending MAKES the lesson of the film.
^This. The bittersweet ending is what makes the film for me, period.
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I would remove Louis from Princess and the Frog. I love this move, but I just... I don't know where to start on this character. Every scene he's in, I cringe.

In Bambi, I would have a few depressing, wintery scenes between Bambi's mom's death and the "Let's Sing a Gay Little Spring Song". It's such a drastic change that doesn't mesh well with the rest of the movie.

I would have had Chief die in Fox and the Hound. I love the character, but Todd's reaction would have made a LOT more sense if he had actually died and not just broken his leg. Oh, and given Vixy an actual character instead of one boring cliche after another.

In Bolt, I would have made Penny be a teenager to match her voice better, and at the end of the opening sequence, instead of us seeing Penny going into the trailer and people cleaning up the set, we would zoom out and see the director watching what we had just watched, editing it and adding computer effects and whatnot. It would explain the impossible moments, like Bolt holding the car over the edge of the bridge.

In Hunchback... I would not remove the gargoyles. Yes, stare in shock at me all you want, but I have a feeling that without the gargoyles, they would have found some other annoying way to insert comedy relief, so might as well have it in the form of characters who aren't our leads. What I would do, is cut their song, give them a more sophisticated way of being funny (Lumiere, Cogsworth, and Mrs. Potts, anyone?), and show in the end that in reality, they were nothing more then Quasimodo's imaginary friends, and now that he's accepted, he can let go of them and start a new life among the citizens of Paris. Now that would have been a nice way to finish his character off.
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Just not do Belle's Magical World, could have worked as bonus shorts but not as a movie
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Tae wrote:...show in the end that in reality, they were nothing more then Quasimodo's imaginary friends, and now that he's accepted, he can let go of them and start a new life among the citizens of Paris. Now that would have been a nice way to finish his character off.
I really like that idea. It's a shame that the gargoyles took part in the action of the film's climax, or it could be argued that they were just part of Quasi's imagination.
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Lazario wrote:
Animalia wrote:Well, from Princess and the Frog I would have Ray not die.
Forgive the obvious hypocrisy since I'm not religious, but,

IN GOD'S NAME, WHY???!!!???!!!???!!!???
I think I wouldn't have minded it so much if it was say in the middle of the film instead of the end. When Mufasa dies, the film doesn't end right there. You still have funny moments afterwards with Timon and Pumbaa but with Ray dying at the end of the film, I felt sad throughout the whole ending. I never got happy again. Also with Disney films sidekicks NEVER die, they are the characters you get attached too. And if I was a mother I would be very upset about it. When I went to the theater there was a little boy who asked after after Ray got squashed "does he die?" and the mother told him he would of course be okay since it's a Disney film.

Trust me, it isn't fun sitting in a theater with young kids crying at the films end.
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Animalia wrote:Fox and the Hound I would have changed the ending instead of them going their separate ways they become best buddies again forever. I thought the ending ruined the whole lesson in the film.
On the contrary, the ending MAKES the lesson of the film.
To their own I guess. Just for me what I perceived from the ending, is that the Fox and the Hound can't be friends, because they were meant to kill each other and that the world was right when people said they couldn't be friends. The hound may have let the fox go but they shouldn't even see each other because the hound may changes its mind.

These are just my opinions, I can see others peoples points of views. I guess when I go to see a Disney film, I watch it to escape real life not to have real life intrude. I don't like bittersweet films. :cry:
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Dr Frankenollie wrote:
Tae wrote:...show in the end that in reality, they were nothing more then Quasimodo's imaginary friends, and now that he's accepted, he can let go of them and start a new life among the citizens of Paris. Now that would have been a nice way to finish his character off.
I really like that idea. It's a shame that the gargoyles took part in the action of the film's climax, or it could be argued that they were just part of Quasi's imagination.
in the german play, they turned the gargoyles into Quasi's imaginative friends.
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Animalia wrote:Well, from Princess and the Frog I would have Ray not die.
I would have kept that in. I would have killed off Louis very early on, though. Or just have him not in the picture. And I would rewrite the whole trip through the swamp because it didn't add a lot. Basically, this whole movie needs rewriting.

Also:

Dinosaur: I would have given the dinosaurs actual personalities, so I would care about them.

Beauty and the Beast: I would give it the right colors back (yes, I went there!) and I would make Belle not look fugly in a lot of shots (when she's horribly off-model). And I would give a lot more screentime to their relationship developing and less time to filler (Gaston's bar scene etc.)

Pocahontas: make the humurous characters part of the story instead of an after-thought. They are clearly shoehorned in and it negatively affects the otherwise great movie. I wouldn't cut them out entirely, because some humor is needed sometimes, but it should've been integrated better.

The Rescuers Down Under: cut out Jake. Give Cody more character. Make MacLeach a more memorable villain. Add some substance to compliment the amazing visuals. Don't have Bernard propose to Bianca, tone down the romance.

The Little Mermaid: make sure Ariel looks as beautiful as she does in 'Part of your world' throughout the entire movie. She changes from gorgeous adult to chubby teenagers so radically at times that it gets annoying.

The Aristocats: get rid of all geese characters. Most annoying motherf*ckers ever in a Disney movie. Remove the slapstick with Edgar and the dogs and instead use that time to add to the characters of the cats.

Robin Hood: don't recycle animation from previous films that damn much!

Tarzan: do better CGI backgrounds in a lot of places to make the jungle *not* look like plastic. Do other stuff, like the water and the wood with which the parents build the treehouse, in traditional animation instead of CGI.

Treasure Planet: make it *not* look like a bad computer game.

Home on the Range: okay, this needs *so* much reworking that it's actually better to axe it completely.

Alice in Wonderland: give Alice a personality.

Sleeping Beauty: give Aurora more screentime, so we actually begin to care about what happens to her. Remove all deus ex machinas of the good fairies when helping Philip; make the end fight actually exciting instead of one magic sword being swung into the dragon; give Aurora some lines after waking up; make Malificent more threatening by making her less incompetent (relying on bumbling buffoons to look for a kid and then only finding out they were looking for a baby after 16 years --is that woman dumb?)

Bambi: get rid of the scene where they all instantaneously fall in love with female versions of themselves, right after Bambi's mother was shot.

Fantasia: cut out the visible soundtrack and severly shorten the scene with the centaurs; severly shorten the opening with the abstract forms

Fantasia 2000: get rid of the celebrity hosts; do away with the now very dated CGI; cut out Mickey's part (we already knew that); tone down the slapstick humor in a lot of the parts; make the film longer; make it feel a whole lot more like the original.

Oliver & Company: give the bland main character a lot more personality
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Hmm... I don't know that I would have changed much, off the top of my head, from the animated films. Unless you wanna go check out the thread about cringeworthy stuff. I guess that's the same thing. Really, I could find more things in the live-action I would change. Like making Country Bears a 2D animated film with characters taken exactly from the attraction, and casting Hilary Duff in Muppet Wizard of Oz. I hear they were going to, but they didn't want to pay her enough or something. Don't know if that's true. I'm not saying it would fix the movie or that she's a particularly good actress. But the girl who was cast was very bland and needed some socks at least, as she had some ugly feet. Hilary was my big crush at the time and I think would have been more fun with the Muppets. Other Disney Channel actresses over the years could have worked too, like more recently, Selena Gomez. I would have made other changes too (Rizzo in the Toto role instead of Pepe, for one, even though I actually like Pepe; Rizzo made more sense, especially for a Dorothy who was a waitress working in a diner).
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Animalia wrote:
SpringHeelJack wrote: On the contrary, the ending MAKES the lesson of the film.
To their own I guess. Just for me what I perceived from the ending, is that the Fox and the Hound can't be friends, because they were meant to kill each other and that the world was right when people said they couldn't be friends. The hound may have let the fox go but they shouldn't even see each other because the hound may changes its mind.
The lesson at the end isn't that the world is right about certain people not being able to be friends, it's that the world says that they can't be friends in the first place which creates all the problems seen in the movie. It says that because the world has certain predetermined notions about others getting along, people won't be able to get along, and that it's not something that can be be easily overcome. It's some fairly heavy stuff for a kid's movie, but that's what gives the movie any of its bite, frankly.
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Good topic!
The first one that comes to mind is Lilo and Stitch. As much as I love that movie, I think the beginning needs to be a bit shorter. I mean the outerspace part, before we get to Earth.

In Snow White... more of the queen!! I always felt we didnt get enough of her. Cut a bit of the dwarves (the washing scene?) and add a bit more of the queen!

In Sleeping Beauty... I agree: make Aurora a more active character...

I agree that Flit, Meeko and Percy need to be axed from Pocahontas, as do the gargoyles in Hunchaback.

Hercules needs the whole story tightened. Too many scattered sequences, and too big of a climax that gets solved too easily (Six titans and they all get "killed" by being caught in a tornado and thrown off the planet???).
AND HERCULES SHOULDNT BE A REDHEAD. Seriously??? IN ANCIENT GREECE???

Mulan: that damn 98 degrees song at the end! Do something w a bit of dignity!

Axe the stupid elephant from Tarzan. And axe the shoo-bap-shee-doo sequence.

DO NOT ALLOW PHIL COLLINS TO SING IN BROTHER BEAR.

Axe Home on the range, chicken little, treasure planet and 90% of atlantis.

AND... remove the word "groove" from TENG
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Marce82 wrote:AND HERCULES SHOULDNT BE A REDHEAD. Seriously??? IN ANCIENT GREECE???
You are aware that his mother is pink skinned and his father is orange though, right? I mean... pick and choose your battles.
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Animalia wrote:When I went to the theater there was a little boy who asked after after Ray got squashed "does he die?" and the mother told him he would of course be okay since it's a Disney film.
Now I've got another reason I'm glad he died. :D It's annoying that most people regard Disney as innocent fluffiness only for small children.
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Lady and the Tramp - wouldn't it have made more a bit more sense to actually go through with it and kill Trusty at the end of that film? He wasn't one of the two essential characters, and it would have been a nice gesture had he sacrificed his life by trying to right a wrong (freeing the innocent Tramp after his initial incorrect feelings about him). Jock still could have visited during the final scene, and they could reworked the dialogue there a little bit.
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