Tangled Discussion Part VI: Let the Drama continue...

[SpringHeelJack]

This topic makes me hate everyone and "Tangled." And under normal circumstances, I actually like one of those two things.

[DisneyJedi]

Yeah, no offense, but Duster's posts are kind of redundant. And not to sound rude, but he's kind of sounding like a broken record.

[Sky Syndrome]

By the way, what's with The Art of Tangled being OOP so soon? A great deal of the other Disney "Art of" books are all in print, despite being a good few years old. Amazon UK still have it, so I've placed a quick order (though it says 7-10 days delivery, so I'm not 100% sure if I'll get it, as from previous experience that has been a cover up for being unavailable ). I saw a whole stack of The Art of Tangled books when I was back home a few days before Christmas, but I held myself back from getting it due to being shortish on cash till the 25th, and by the time I went back, they'd all gone. I hope I get it when all's said and done.

The Art of The Princess and the Frog was OOP two months after it was released. I hope you find a good deal for The Art of Tangled somewhere.

[Goliath]

er.....I mean let's talk about long hair girls and their petite cute body

Do they *have* to be called 'Rapunzel' or can we talk about *any* long-haired girl with a petite cute body?

[Super Aurora]

This topic makes me hate everyone and "Tangled." And under normal circumstances, I actually like one of those two things.

Your avatar match perfectly with that statement.

[Sky Syndrome]

This topic makes me hate everyone and "Tangled." And under normal circumstances, I actually like one of those two things.

Your avatar match perfectly with that statement.

I thought so too and right after, I didn't mention it in my post. *facepalm*

[rj.disney]

Just thought i'd share these Dutch (and Belgian?) DVD/Blu-ray covers

just a little sidetrack from the main discussion , does anyone know a website that sell these?

[Goliath]

Disney Animation, the kinds of changed Disney made to the old films does matter, because it is not just about any change, it’s about a Disney change, just like it’s not about making any good movie, it’s about making a good Disney movie. The kinds of changes Disney made to the old stories are not the same kinds of changes they made to Tangled, and that is the problem. It can’t just be any change, it has to be a Disney change.

[PatrickvD]

Tangled is closing in on $500 million worldwide with holidays in the UK and a launch in Japan coming up! $600 million is gonna be a close one!

Disney Animation's Tangled claimed in its 11th week of overseas play the foreign theatrical circuit's No. 1 box office position for the third time this year, roundly besting Sony's The Green Hornet, which opened abroad more recently on Jan. 12.

Weekend overall for the durable 3D animation version of the long-haired Princess Rapunzel tale drew $23.7 million from 5,159 locations in 50 territories for an overseas gross total so far of $285.1 million, with the worldwide cume at $477.2 million. That makes Tangled the 23rd largest-grossing animation title ever released. A South Korea opening is due this Thursday (Feb. 10).

Tangled opened No. 1 in Spain, grossing $5.6 million from 472 venues, while maintaining its first-place rank in its second U.K. stanza with $7.2 million from 434 sites – down just 11% from the opening weekend -- for a market cume of $17.1 million. Strong weekend openings in Sweden and Norway were also logged.

This abomination that spits in the face of Walt Disney's legacy is the most beloved Disney animated release since at least Lilo & Stitch (which did poorly outside of the US anyway). What the hell is this whole discussion about again? Oh, right we are now discussing the new term Disney changes....

[CampbellzSoup]

The red cover for 3D looks 10x better than the white one

[Goliath]

Just a few quick notes:

Big One, I agree with almost everything you said. Not just about Duster, but also about Rapunzel, when compared to Princess and the Frog, and the relationship between Gothel and Rapunzel. It was really different from Frollo-Quasimodo or Tremaine-Cinderella.

SWillie and Disney's Divinity, I don't agree with you at all when it comes to Big One's posts. Maybe you took his posts a bit too personally or too seriously, but I can't say he has been behaving like an "asshole" or that he was "talking down" to anyone. Remember, the very same things were said about me when I made my first responses. Maybe you just have a problem with people who are outspoken? I don't think Big One was offending anyone.

Well, I hate to break it to you, but everyone here already thinks you're an asshole. If we thought Goliath treated Duster unfairly, he doesn't have anything on you.

Speak for yourself. I certainly don't think he's an "asshole". You're the one calling other members names. Big One didn't call anybody names. In fact, I feel you and Disney's Divinity are over-dramatizing things an awful lot. I was used to with Divinity (yet I was still disturbed by the high percentage of drama queen-ish behavior in his last reply to Big One), but I didn't know you were capable of it as well.

Explain to me how and when I treated Duster "unfairly". Back it up. Duster has accused me of being a "homophobe" simply because I didn't agree with him. He treats people who don't agree with him as idiots *all the time*. The fact that Divinity falsely claims Big One is treating him as an idiot, while leaving out the fact that Duster does this all the time, is extremely hypocritical. If one doesn't agree with Duster, he'll say: "you haven't read my reply carefully/ you just don't understand me" or something like that. It's patronizing; he's treating everybody like 5 year olds. Yes, 5 year olds, Divinity!

[disneyboy20022]

By the way, what's with The Art of Tangled being OOP so soon? A great deal of the other Disney "Art of" books are all in print, despite being a good few years old. Amazon UK still have it, so I've placed a quick order (though it says 7-10 days delivery, so I'm not 100% sure if I'll get it, as from previous experience that has been a cover up for being unavailable ). I saw a whole stack of The Art of Tangled books when I was back home a few days before Christmas, but I held myself back from getting it due to being shortish on cash till the 25th, and by the time I went back, they'd all gone. I hope I get it when all's said and done.

The Art of The Princess and the Frog was OOP two months after it was released. I hope you find a good deal for The Art of Tangled somewhere.

The Art of Princess and the Frog is still available....on Amazon...though I thought it went OOP too...odd

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... eimprovemz

[phan258]

The red cover for 3D looks 10x better than the white one

Whoa, you think so? I actually found the red border rather hideous, but hey, whatever floats your boat (out into the harbor to see the lanterns) *is shot*

Also, any of you who follow our favorite Tangled tumblr HYT---I saw the little Tangled snowglobe at the Disney store today! It was cute, but not quite worthy of $25, imho. I LOVED the musicbox rendition of I See the Light, though, and am hoping they make a bigger, nicer snowglobe soon!

[Escapay]

Tangled is closing in on $500 million worldwide with holidays in the UK and a launch in Japan coming up! $600 million is gonna be a close one!

That's certainly good news.

What the hell is this whole discussion about again? Oh, right we are now discussing the new term Disney changes....

I have a feeling that if we simply precede any word with "Disney", it'll instantly make it something more special than it normally is. At least for some people. Simply because it has the word "Disney" in front of it.

Disney Vacuum Cleaner
Disney Texting
Disney Carburetor
Disney Walking
Disney Fireplace
Disney Breathing
Disney Condom
Disney Lies

And Sunny Wing, loved your last picture. I had a feeling one would follow once I wrote "not so fresh".

albert

[Mobje]

Just thought i'd share these Dutch (and Belgian?) DVD/Blu-ray covers

just a little sidetrack from the main discussion , does anyone know a website that sell these?

www.frs.nl (Rapunzel not listed yet) and www.bol.com ship abroad, but the sites seem to be in Dutch only.
Google translate perhaps?
Or anyone here from Holland who knows if they can be switched to English?
DVD and Blu-ray are Region 2/B though!

[ajmrowland]

In fact, in early plans for the movie, he was described as an early victim of Dr. Facilier, who used to be human. I think he had come to Facilier to be a jazz-playing star. I don't know why they cut that idea, because I think it would've helped the character a lot.

That would of saved his character a lot. Fact they took it out shows the writers weren't thinking.

It could've easily been the studio too. Execs like to alter scripts to sell tickets.

[Polizzi]

just a little sidetrack from the main discussion , does anyone know a website that sell these?

www.frs.nl (Rapunzel not listed yet) and www.bol.com ship abroad, but the sites seem to be in Dutch only.
Google translate perhaps?
Or anyone here from Holland who knows if they can be switched to English?
DVD and Blu-ray are Region 2/B though!

Thank you for the websites to find that DVD.

[Disney's Divinity]

To DisneyJedi and Dragonlion: Glad I'm not only the one here who thinks Tangled and TP&TF are being held to two different standards.

Also, about the fact that Rapunzel's been in development for so long, it has also gone through multiple versions before they finally got to the one we got in the theater. They could've only started on that version a few years ago, giving it about the same development time as TP&TF. Besides, time doesn't dispute the fact that, like TP&TF, Tangled also borrows loads from the '90s. If you're going to criticize one for it, you have to criticize both.

To King_Louis: I agree that Tangled seems to be a "safe" movie, in the same way that TP&TF and the upcoming Winnie The Pooh are "safe" moves for Disney to make right now. And I agree that Rapunzel sometimes seems to bend back-and-forth in characterization to suit the story's needs, but I think, for the most part, she's a strong (well-developed, I mean) character. Also agree that TP&TF was better, but there's no denying that Tangled has been hugely successful, as you said. Regardless, I'm glad for Disney to have some success again, maybe it'll lead to more animated films in the future.

SWillie and Disney's Divinity, I don't agree with you at all when it comes to Big One's posts. Maybe you took his posts a bit too personally or too seriously, but I can't say he has been behaving like an "asshole" or that he was "talking down" to anyone. Remember, the very same things were said about me when I made my first responses.

Just the first ones?

Anyway, no surprise there. But, of course, if anyone replied to you in the same manner, they would be a "drama queen." It's easy to label someone instead of actually listening to them. Good thing my goal in life isn't to make you like me (that would be hard though, with you up on that pedestal judging the rest of us).

If one doesn't agree with Duster, he'll say: "you haven't read my reply carefully/ you just don't understand me" or something like that. It's patronizing; he's treating everybody like 5 year olds. Yes, 5 year olds, Divinity!

I wasn't trying to "defend" DDuster's argument, but to divert the topic to something less sensitive, and something that actually had more to do with Tangled, but he only continued to respond to me the same way he would respond to DDuster. That's why I said he "only wants to talk down to everyone." Maybe that wasn't his intention, but that's all I got from his posts. So, why again is it okay for one poster to do it, but ohbigbad if DDuster does it?

Oh, and I love that picture you did of Rapunzel, enigmawing! Her dress actually looks kind of beautiful there, and you definitely caught the look of the hair. Love the background, too.

[Goliath]

[...] but he only continued to respond to me the same way he would respond to DDuster. That's why I said he "only wants to talk down to everyone." Maybe that wasn't his intention, but that's all I got from his posts. So, why again is it okay for one poster to do it, but ohbigbad if DDuster does it?

Big One wasn't doing that *at all*. I think SWillie and you are being overly sensitive. Say one thing about a movie/artist/whatever that you don't like, you immediately take it personally. (That's why you still think I'm an asshole, admit it. I criticised some of your musical tastes two years ago and you still haven't gotten over it.)

[Sotiris]

The Art of The Princess and the Frog was OOP two months after it was released. I hope you find a good deal for The Art of Tangled somewhere.

The Art of Princess and the Frog is still available....on Amazon...though I thought it went OOP too...odd

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... improvemzl

It did go OOP initially but then they got more on stock. It's rumoured that amazon.com will restock The Art of Tangled in mid-March to coincide with the DVD/Blu-ray release. We'll see.