What era will "The Princess and the Frog" lead?

brownpuppy · Post by **brownpuppy** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:26 pm

I thought I should start this topic, as we all are excited for The Princess and the Frog, I still have a feeling that it will mark a new era in Disney Animation Films, I know this soulds silly, but I feel it should be called "The Disney Age of Enlightenment."

We had our golden age 1990's Renaissance Era, so what do you think, honestly.[/b][/url]

Just.A.Friend · Post by **Just.A.Friend** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:30 pm

I hope that Princess and the Frog will cause this new renaisance and will start a new line of hand drawn animated movies, such as Little Mermaid did with Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin and the Lion King.. Hopefully this starts the beginning of more Disney Hand-Drawn Animated Classics.

Let's hope!

Cordy_Biddle · Post by **Cordy_Biddle** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:21 pm

I agree. From what I understand of how "Princess and the Frog" is being marketed (with adult audiences at least), it's from a "thank God hand-drawn animation's back" kind of standpoint. I hope it's a huge success and Disney starts once again focusing on the kind of animation which made them famous in the first place.

SpringHeelJack · Post by **SpringHeelJack** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:44 pm

I think it's a bit early to say it's an age of anything. Let's see how the movie is first.

Just.A.Friend · Post by **Just.A.Friend** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:30 pm

SpringHeelJack wrote:I think it's a bit early to say it's an age of anything. Let's see how the movie is first.

He never said it was an age of anything at all.. but rather had a feeling it was. However, you are right. It's best to see the movie before we start saying all these things about how this will be the big Disney turn around. Let's just see how it goes and hope for the best.

SpringHeelJack · Post by **SpringHeelJack** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:10 pm

I know. I'm just saying, it's early to surmise what an age will be known as. I mean, the movie could flop horribly and everything after could be CGI. It could do well, but have several lousy follow ups.

Mickeyfan1990 · Post by **Mickeyfan1990** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:15 pm

I'm hopin this film will lead to "The Age Of The 2-D Comeback". Plus, I doubt this film will fail (I see it as an Oscar nominee).

SpringHeelJack · Post by **SpringHeelJack** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:34 pm

I'm sure it will be up for a Best Animated Film Oscar, but it's not too hard to score that nom, all things considered.

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:57 pm

I have a feeling that the movie will lead into an era known as "The Age of Overestimating The Success" as that's what most Disney fans seem to be doing with The Princess and the Frog and Rapunzel (whilst at the same time, overlooking the Winnie the Pooh sequel and King of the Elves). It's good to be enthusiastic for a film, but already calling this an "age" of anything before the movies even come out is really pushing it.

albert

pap64 · Post by **pap64** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:09 am

Escapay wrote:I have a feeling that the movie will lead into an era known as "The Age of Overestimating The Success" as that's what most Disney fans seem to be doing with The Princess and the Frog and Rapunzel. It's nice to be enthusiastic for a film, but already calling something an "age" of anything before the movies even come out is really pushing it.

albert

I agree.

I think fans are doing this because they hope history to repeat itself again. Disney's first movie was a princess film. When WWII hit the Disney Studios it was a princess film that saved it. When Walt died and the studios faced a dark era it was a princess film that pulled the studios out of it.

Now, we find the studios stuck in a CG rut and people are hoping (Disney included) that it starts a new age of creativity and tradition at the studios.

Here's what I think... I think Princess and the Frog would have to be a HUGE hit in order to get things going in terms of 2D animation. And when I say hit, I mean go BEYOND the 200 million mark, numbers that rival that of Pixar and Dreamworks.

Speaking of which, when Disney started the new era with the fab four they didn't have that much competition. Sure there were the Universal movies and the occasional Don Bluth project, but Disney didn't have the competition they have today. Back then, Disney was king. People wanted to emulate them, they set standards, they broke records and made tons of money doing it.

Now, Disney is synonymous for Hannah Montana, High School Musical and Jonas Brothers (sure, a gross exaggeration but I am sure fans know Disney more for this than for Mickey Mouse). Both Pixar and Dreamworks are the kings of the animated box office. People know them, love their films, they break records and sweep awards.

I think for a new animated era to start both The Princess and the Frog and Rapunzel would have to set the box office in FIRE. Smack Pixar and Dreamworks in the face and prove that they are still a power house in the animated industry, and this is going to be HARD.

So if these films are able to create box office magic the yeah we have truly entered a new era.

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:25 am

pap64 wrote:I think for a new animated era to start both The Princess and the Frog and Rapunzel would have to set the box office in FIRE. Smack Pixar and Dreamworks in the face and prove that they are still a power house in the animated industry, and this is going to be HARD.

Not according to some of the most ardent Disney fans who seem to think all that The Princess and the Frog needs to succeed is the fact that it's traditional animation and has the name "Disney" on it.

If that were the case, then masterpieces like Atlantis: The Lost Empire and Treasure Planet would've broke the box office.

I hope I'm not coming across as trying to stomp on TPATF's allegedly upcoming success. I just want to point out to some Disney fans that it needs more than just the Disney name and traditional animation to be successful. Sure, early buzz is it's got a great story and great characters. But you know what? So did Bambi. And in its initial theatrical release, it underperformed. When Robin Hood was first released to theatres, it became the *most successful* animated Disney film of all time. And yet today it's one of the films that gets the least amount of attention from Disney.

albert

pap64 · Post by **pap64** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:25 am

Hell, look at Bolt. The movie received better reviews than Chicken Little and Robinsons combined, yet it performed worse than those films.

I do believe that Frog will be a hit, but I don't know if it will be a HUUUUUUUGE hit like some fans are claiming it will.

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:27 am

The age of lack of diversification?

Jules · Post by **Jules** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:40 am

2099net wrote:The age of lack of diversification?

I'm hoping not. If WDAS succeed with TPatF, I hope Lasseter will allow them to breath and tackle a variety (thematically) of projects, and not have them tackle only fairytales.

I want to see sci-fi (like Atlantis or Treasure Planet) and experimental, artistic film-making again (Fantasia) from WDAS.

SpringHeelJack · Post by **SpringHeelJack** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:21 am

pap64 wrote:Hell, look at Bolt. The movie received better reviews than Chicken Little and Robinsons combined, yet it performed worse than those films.

Just goes to show how little critical reviews count for. For what it's worth, I thought "Meet the Robinsons" was the best of the three, despite critical performance. If I can get that from "The Princess and the Frog", I'll have considered it a relative success.

Wonderlicious · Post by **Wonderlicious** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:47 am

How about one of the following...

The Age of Not Believing
The Age of Revolutions
The Age of Dinosaurs
The Age of War
The EngAGE
The Age of Empires
The Modern Age
The Middle Ages
My, haven't you AGEd
The Ripe-old Age
The Right Age
The Under Age

Or perhaps, the Age of Reason. Oh wait, I'm referring to what Escapay wrote there:

Escapay wrote:I have a feeling that the movie will lead into an era known as "The Age of Overestimating The Success" as that's what most Disney fans seem to be doing with The Princess and the Frog and Rapunzel (whilst at the same time, overlooking the Winnie the Pooh sequel and King of the Elves). It's good to be enthusiastic for a film, but already calling this an "age" of anything before the movies even come out is really pushing it.

albert

Want2beBelle · Post by **Want2beBelle** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:54 am

Escapay wrote:I have a feeling that the movie will lead into an era known as "The Age of Overestimating The Success" as that's what most Disney fans seem to be doing with The Princess and the Frog and Rapunzel (whilst at the same time, overlooking the Winnie the Pooh sequel and King of the Elves). It's good to be enthusiastic for a film, but already calling this an "age" of anything before the movies even come out is really pushing it.

albert

Very good post!

Goliath · Post by **Goliath** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:50 am

Escapay wrote:And in its initial theatrical release, it underperformed. When Robin Hood was first released to theatres, it became the *most successful* animated Disney film of all time.

You sure about that? The way I've understood it, it was a financial flop.

milojthatch · Post by **milojthatch** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:12 pm

pap64 wrote:
I think for a new animated era to start both The Princess and the Frog and Rapunzel would have to set the box office in FIRE. Smack Pixar and Dreamworks in the face and prove that they are still a power house in the animated industry, and this is going to be HARD.

Kind of a funny thought, since if this films leads to any kind of reemergence, it was The Pixar Guru who we can thank for it. Basically, if Disney comes back we can thank Pixar!

singerguy04 · Post by **singerguy04** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:16 pm

Goliath wrote:
Escapay wrote:And in its initial theatrical release, it underperformed. When Robin Hood was first released to theatres, it became the *most successful* animated Disney film of all time.
You sure about that? The way I've understood it, it was a financial flop.

At it's initial release Robin Hood was very successful, but ever since then after re-releases and home video releases... this wasn't the case anymore.

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