Keep Lumpy In The New 2011 Winnie the Pooh Movie!

[Neal]

In 2011, the first hand-drawn Winnie the Pooh movie in six years will be released. The movie is being produced by Walt Disney Animation Studios. This marks the first time in more than 35 years that a Winnie the Pooh motion picture is being produced at Walt Disney Animation Studios. Under the supervision of John Lasseter and producer, Clark Spencer ("Lilo & Stitch," "Bolt") the movie is due out in theaters spring 2011. Steve Anderson ("Meet the Robinsons") and Don Hall (head of story on "The Princess and The Frog") will co-direct. Burny Mattinson who worked as an animator on the original Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree featurette in 1964 will serve as the lead story artist on the project.

In 2005, Lumpy the Heffalump melted our hearts when he busted onto the screen in "Pooh's Heffalump Movie." His exuberance, loyalty, and silliness were the essence of an innocent childhood. Fans of the purple Heffalump, Heffridge Trumpler Brompet Heffalump the Fourth, need to join together to ensure Lumpy is in the film. It is possible that Disney will make this new Pooh film a direct sequel to the original, which would cut Lumpy out. If you're a fan of this heartwarming, purple Heffalump please express it by signing the petition and letting Disney know that Lumpy should be in the 2011 Winnie the Pooh sequel!

Please sign my petition!

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Save-Lumpy

Then pass this along to all other Pooh and Lumpy fans you know of, as well as posting it at any related Disney news site, blog, or forum!

[Mickeyfan1990]

Signed it!

[Luke]

Is there any reason to think he wouldn't be in the new movie? He's been in everything since his debut and often in the foreground. As one of the few children characters of a franchise Disney associates entirely with children, I don't think he's in any jeopardy. I'd be more worried about Christopher Robin.

[Neal]

Because this is John Lasseter we're talking about, crusader for classic Disney. He stopped the DTVs, including the Pooh ones, so he may want to erase any knowledge of them by making this a direct sequel to the 1977 film - which means no Lumpy, Darby, Buster, Kessie... just to name a few.

[Luke]

Because this is John Lasseter we're talking about, crusader for classic Disney. He stopped the DTVs, including the Pooh ones, so he may want to erase any knowledge of them by making this a direct sequel to the 1977 film - which means no Lumpy, Darby, Buster, Kessie... just to name a few.

Oh, my. He must be stopped!

[yukitora]

I personally dont want him to be in the film... probably because I have never seen him in motion.

Which ones better? Pooh's Heffalump movie or the halloween one? Maybe I'll go buy it and check this character out.

[Neal]

Because this is John Lasseter we're talking about, crusader for classic Disney. He stopped the DTVs, including the Pooh ones, so he may want to erase any knowledge of them by making this a direct sequel to the 1977 film - which means no Lumpy, Darby, Buster, Kessie... just to name a few.

Oh, my. He must be stopped!

I understand that to be sarcasm, and don't worry, I agree with your sentiment. I realize the way I worded that sounded defensive of Darby, Buster, Kessie, and the others, but it was not meant to be.

Darby never should have been created, she is a pointless character and if they felt she was more relatable than Christopher Robin for today's kids, they didn't do much to tap into that. All of the new characters from "My Friends Tigger & Pooh" are bland and should be effaced from the history of Disney.

No, if you read the petition site I clearly state that Lumpy is the only character since the 1977 film who should be in this 'official sequel'. No other DTV or TV show character should be included besides Lumpy, in my opinion.

He is very representative of Disney 'ideals' and is the only character of merit.

Obviosuly, for this sequel, all the original characters from the 1977 movie should return:

Winnie-the-Pooh, Piglet, Tigger, Rabbit, Christopher Robin, Eeyore, Owl, Roo, Kanga, Gopher, and the Narrator.

The only characters from the 8 DTV sequels, 4 TV shows, and 3 TV movies that should be added are: Lumpy and Mama Heffalump.

That's it.

All the other characters are stale and don't deserve recognition in the new movie.

yukitora - "Pooh's Heffalump Movie" is all new material. It teaches an important lesson: not to judge others before you meet them (or based on what people tell you alone). Pooh, Piglet, Rabbit, and Tigger were afraid of the Heffalumps but ironically Lumpy was afraid of them. Only Roo could break through the fear and prove not to judge a book by its cover.

The animation is great, and Lumpy is cute. The song "Shoulder to Shoulder" is a stand-out by Carly Simon, and really invokes memories of childhood friendships.

"Pooh's Heffalump Halloween Movie" (re-releasing this fall) is not all new. I'd say it's roughly half new. It starts off new, with the gang preapring for Halloween. There's a great song, "Brave Together", which is another song that invokes the bonds of childhood friends (between Roo and umpy). Then it goes into old material, showing "Boo to You Too! Winnie the Pooh" (title sequences removed) as a parable to teach Lumpy to overcome his fear of Halloween. The rest is new after that.

The original film is better. It has three great Carly Simon songs and is all new. It shows Lumpy at his cutest and most creative.

The second film has some nice parts, such as the "Brave Together" song, but the whole rehash of "Boo to You Too! Winnie the Pooh" slows it down a bit.

I'm just a Lumpy fan, so, I like both a lot and have the soundtracks from each that I listen to often.

[jimdotbeep]

First off we need to stop encouraging sequels altogther. Second if this is a direct sequeal to the original how would it even make sence to have this new charecter in it? Aren't hephalumps and woozles supposed to be enemies of Pooh? I think this new charecter goes to show how Disney has forgetten their roots.

[PatrickvD]

I doubt Lumpy is in it.

I also doubt we have any influence on the creative decisions made by the disney animators within the walls of their studio.

I think this film is in really early stages anyway.

[Neal]

The Heffalumps and Woozles were never physical until "The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh".

All the awful things said about them were the imaginations of Pooh, Tigger, Rabbit, and Piglet gone wild.

It turned out Heffalumps were not wild, grotesque creatures.

They were "human" (if you get what I mean) - the pair from 'New Adventures' were bully-like, but not evil.

And Mama Heffalump/Lumpy were nice.

"Pooh's Heffalump Movie" has connotations of the ills of racism - that you fear those who are not like you, but, they can fear you. In the end, all the fear was baseless.

Disney wasn't forgetting their roots - they were harking upon them, and taught a great message with it.

[Disneykid]

To be honest, I found Pooh's Heffalump Movie a little too preachy. I fully support morality tales, but I can't help but feel that lately the Pooh franchise has focused more on teaching preschoolers how to live than on pinning down the appropriate characterizations and whimsy.

If I had the choice, I'd prefer it if Lumpy weren't included, but the character itself doesn't bother me, so I won't cry foul if he shows up. I actually would rather see Kessie show up. She's the only character who's miraculously managed to bring out other qualities in Rabbit besides his fussiness. She's also, in my opinion, a stronger character than any of the other new ones. She made appearances in the Book of Pooh series, but has disappeared since then. At the very least, I'd like for her to cameo in crowd scenes so that to those who acknowledge "New Adventures" as canon, she's there, and to everyone else, she's just a random bird there for set dressing. It's not so easy to do that with someone like Lumpy.

I'm actually not as alarmed about Christopher Robin being left off as Luke is. The reason being is because I honestly can't see John Lasseter dropping the character all together. I'm sure he understands that the relationship between Pooh and Christopher is the real heart of this franchise, and it's a fact that's been neglected recently. I never realized it until I made this post, but that may be the reason why I value the "New Adventures" series and Grand Adventure DTV over anything else that followed. Even when he wasn't on screen, the character was still acknowledged.

[Neal]

I found the first screenshot from the movie!



(Okay, not really, but this is who should be in the 2011 film: the 1977 movie cast plus Lumpy and Mama Heffalump, no more/no less).

To me, it's the perfect cast.

[goofystitch]

Here is an idea: Let them make the movie that they want to make.

The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh is a classic Disney film that has suffered from being marketed as "for kids only" since the 80's, along with Dumbo, and as far as I can tell, the reason is because preschool television series were made based on these two films (Dumbo's Circus and Welcome to Pooh Corner). Pooh was obviously taken much further with two animated series, a slew of direct to video sequels and two theatrical sequels... all of which were aimed exclusively at kids and neglected the large amount of adult fans that the original shorts and feature had accumulated.

Lumpy was a byproduct of that era in Pooh history. Is he cute? Yes. Is he charming? Yes. Does he belong in the second Pooh film from Walt Disney Animation Studios? Not really.

Here is why: Heffalumps and woozles were a creation of Pooh and Tigger's imagination. They were odd creatures that took the very thing you love most, which in Pooh's case was honey (hunny). Just because the folks at Disney Toon Studios decided that they should base a movie around a real heffalump and just because he is highly marketed now and appears in the most recent (and might I mention cancelled) Pooh series doesn't mean that he belongs in this film.

I'm not saying that he won't be there, but I personally would rather that Lumpy not be included. I would like to go back to the way things were. To a film where Eeyore is actually present as a character. A film where Owl and Gopher exist. That's the Pooh movie that I want to see.

Personally, I also hope that the new Pooh film is three short stories strung together into a feature length film. In my opinion, the Pooh characters don't have enough weight to carry a 90 minute story. Not including the holiday themed Pooh sequels, I find Piglet's Big Movie to be the most enjoyable because it follows the format of the original. The Search for Chrisotpher Robin, The Tigger Movie, and Pooh's Heffalump Movie all reach a very slow point where the story becomes stale because it is stretched longer than it should have been.

That is the petition that I would prefer to sign.

[Neal]

A) My petition does ask for Owl and Gopher to be back.

B) Sorry, but once again the 'adult fans' will be neglected:

"DCP will focus merchandise strategy on moms of infants and toddlers, with a secondary focus on women."

If DCP is merchandising to that crowd, expect that the film will, too.

And there's nothing wrong with encouraging WDAS one way or another. We encouraged them to stop DTVs, so why not then let them know what to do with the canon films?

[jediliz]

Is Lumpy a character from the A. A. Milne books? If not, then its my opinion that he doesn't belong in a sequel to the 1977 movie that was based on short Winnie the Pooh stories.

[Neal]

Then kiss Gopher goodbye, too. "He's not in the book."

[Escapay]

A) My petition does ask for Owl and Gopher to be back.

But I don't see any mention of Owl or Gopher in your petition...

"We can do it, two is better, you and me together..."

Fans of Lumpy, the Heffalump:

In 2005, Lumpy the Heffalump melted our hearts when he busted onto the screen in "Pooh's Heffalump Movie." His exuberance, loyalty, and silliness were the essence of an innocent childhood. In 2011, Walt Disney Animation Studios is creating the first made-for-theaters Winnie the Pooh film since the original, 1977 "The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh". Fans of the purple Heffalump, Heffridge Trumpler Brompet Heffalump the Fourth, need to join together to ensure Lumpy is in the film. It is possible that Disney will make this new Pooh film a direct sequel to the original, which would cut Lumpy out. If you're a fan of this heartwarming, purple Heffalump please express it by signing the petition and letting Disney know that Lumpy should be in the 2011 Winnie the Pooh sequel!

Let's stand "shoulder to shoulder" and be "brave together, brave forever", if we do, "we can weather whatever comes along."

Thank you and "heffa nice day"!

You mention it in a post in this thread, but it's not in the actual petition.

Anyway, I agree mostly with the "No Lumpy" camp. Lumpy is a product of the "kiddified" Pooh era, and if Lasseter & Co. want a theatrical Pooh in the same vein as the 1960s shorts and 1977 package film, then Lumpy has no need to be in it. He's an adorable character, and I actually bought Pooh's Heffalump Movie simply on the basis of watching five minutes of the film at Once Upon A Toy, but he's not as necessary to the ensemble as characters like Christopher Robin, Owl, and Gopher. If Disney wants to continue using the Lumpy character, they can, but keep it a separate canon from theatrical Pooh.

albert

[Neal]

It's in the letter to Disney.

And this is a thread for Lumpy lovers. If you don't like him, don't sign the petition, but no need to tell me about it. I know there are those who don't like the character, but, there are those who do.

Frankly, none of this needed discussion. Either you sign, or don't.

[pap64]

It's in the letter to Disney.

And this is a thread for Lumpy lovers. If you don't like him, don't sign the petition, but no need to tell me about it. I know there are those who don't like the character, but, there are those who do.

Frankly, none of this needed discussion. Either you sign, or don't.

I have to be honest, dude. This statement sounds as if you don't want to hear any comments that are opposite your own and don't want to back your own argument up and just want the opinions to "go away".

We have the right to express our opinion on the characters as long as we are respectful and follow the rules. This IS something that can be discussed since this is all about the value of a character in a massive cartoon franchise. You want Lumpy to be in the new movie. Others don't. I think both camps have the right to say why they want the character in.

You saying that we shouldn't express our opinions is making you look desperate and childish. Pooh doesn't belong to you. It belongs to the original author first, Disney second. They are the ones that make the decision and if they feel the movie will be tighter and better with the elimination on one supporting character then sadly that's something they must do.

If you want this petition to gain support don't censor anyone that disagrees with it and let them express their thoughts.

[Siren]

It's in the letter to Disney.

And this is a thread for Lumpy lovers. If you don't like him, don't sign the petition, but no need to tell me about it. I know there are those who don't like the character, but, there are those who do.

Frankly, none of this needed discussion. Either you sign, or don't.

If you don't want a discussion, post it on craigslist.

You posted it on a MESSAGE aka discussion board. Just because you don't like some people's opinions does not make them less valid nor does it mean you can dictate how the board operates.

Frankly, I'm not signing it. Not because I don't want him to be in it, but simply because I don't care enough. I only ready it to see who Lumpy was and then saw what I feel was a bit of an ignorant statement and wanted to clarify to you just how this whole message board thing works here.